| Family Values in Ancient Times:
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| | war once it was approved. These women
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| Many people of the present make some very
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| | owned the assets or leaseholds. No one
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| grave and disturbing assumptions about
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| | owned land just as was true in the land
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| prior unethical behaviour by humans. My
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| | use laws of the Kelts which the English
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| theories may be biased and overly
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| | had to expunge along with all other just
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| appreciative of a time before Empire and
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| | and fair culture when they finally forced
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| there is less data due to the destructive
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| | Ireland under their rule. The Indians
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| power of Empire and the hegemony to go
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| | still practice Potlatch or the giving of
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| on. However, that data is more pure and
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| | respect and assets despite the 1920s law
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| less likely to have been promoted or
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| | against it in Canada. We can all imagine
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| propagandized for the interests of
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| | the Tax collectors don't like this kind
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| power-mongers. Top scholars and those who
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| | of custom. It was much more than mere
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| are regarded as great academics still
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| | taxes the government sought and the
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| debate whether women ever had equal
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| | Supreme Court has ruled the government
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| rights and some state there never were
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| | and Catholic Church were intent on the
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| matriarchal societies of great note. It
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| | total destruction of Indian beliefs, in
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| would be a surprise for me if there were
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| | recent rulings.
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| not many different approaches used in
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| | "In any event, the incest tabus
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| various cultures and millennia before the
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| | recognized in any given hunting society
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| Ice Age we just experienced and
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| | bear some relationship to his choice (or
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| thereafter, leading up to what we call
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| | to his and/or her parents' choice) of a
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| history. Much of history today has all
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| | marital partner. Of these prohibitions
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| the markings of hegemony akin to the
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| | there are three basic and quite different
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| Middle Ages according to John Ralston
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| | incest tabus, prohibiting intercourse
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| Saul who says it "has come to resemble
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| | between father and daughter, mother and
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| the obscure and controlling scholasticism
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| | son, and brother and sister. These
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| of the Middle Ages." (1)
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| | prohibitions are not based on instinct or
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| Could it be that ethics and moral
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| | the inductive experience of the genetic
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| behaviour had higher importance in the
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| | consequences that sometimes result {Like
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| communal houses of the Kelts and North
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| | the idiots and haemophiliacs or sexual
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| American Indians, as well as other
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| | deviates who lead us as a result of
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| societies throughout this awesome world?
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| | 'noble' heritage - to war and other great
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| We now know it has been traversed by
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| | heroic endeavours.}. Some individuals
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| ancient humans who loved and played all
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| | violate them, but if so the violations do
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| over the place for a far longer period
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| | not result in marriage.
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| than we have been lead to believe even
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| | To a considerable extent these primary
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| though many may not be aware of these
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| | incest tabus are based on two kinds of
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| facts. Is it possible that basic
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| | antisocial results. Parent-child
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| principles were easily communicated and
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| | intercourse would disrupt the lines of
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| respect was the goal of people long ago?
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| | authority between generations, lines that
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| Why even debate the point about power and
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| | hold the family together. Brother-sister
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| money - they had little need of it.
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| | intercourse during adolescence would
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| Western society still has much of the
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| | inhibit intermarriage between families,
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| ingrained misogyny of millennia of macho
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| | reducing their interdependence. Were a
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| Mediterranean mores and the rest of the
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| | married woman to have intercourse with
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| world is far worse. What greater issue is
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| | her brother, it would create a state of
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| there than incest and family violence? It
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| | serious conflict between her husband and
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| rots the fabric of families and society
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| | his brother-in-law, two kinsmen by
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| as a whole. This quote from respected
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| | marriage who, in certain cultures, might
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| anthropologist Carlton Coon about the
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| | need each other's confidence and help."
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| 'hunting societies' of prehistory sets a
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| | (3)
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| stage we need to appreciate and evaluate.
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| | The 'controlling scholasticism of the
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| "While under certain circumstances, in
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| | Middle Ages' referred to by Ralston Saul
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| some societies, a young man may marry a
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| | was part of the continuing effort to
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| woman past menopause, he may manage to
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| | destroy these real family values. The
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| have sexual relations with other women,
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| | marriage laws of the Kelts had to be
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| and may eventually get a nubile second
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| | eliminated because these laws were
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| wife." (2)
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| | equitable and fair to women and children.
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| This seems a workable arrangement that
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| | Bastards were not ever possible in Keltic
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| includes education and the planning of
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| | society and the idea of a single mother
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| families to avoid unnecessary abortion or
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| | was totally different than it is today.
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| mouths who aren't truly cared for,
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| | Of course, the payment of mercenaries
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| doesn't it? The older woman presumably
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| | including the rape and pillage which
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| would be able to satisfy the early sexual
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| | enabled men to gradually lose all decent
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| energy of the young man, without leading
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| | tabus or constructs based on the ancient
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| their social or tribal culture into all
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| | means of care for each other that were
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| the problems associated with children
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| | part of all the systems Brotherhood
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| having children such as often happens
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| | developed, through common sense. The
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| today. The young man might even develop
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| | elevation of Gods from the state of hero
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| some sexual techniques and understand his
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| | (mere human) to Divine Rights and
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| urges better than pure lustful
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| | separate from Nature, is at the root of a
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| infatuation or the need to run off to
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| | lot of it. Heyerdahl thinks Odin was a
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| fight in order to get rape and pillage
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| | Keltic king in southern Russia around the
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| payment for some Lord or Caesar. Then
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| | time of Christ and I find that entirely
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| when financially and emotionally prepared
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| | likely. When man began to say other men
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| for parenting he might actually do a
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| | were unable to comprehend nature and
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| decent job. Coon was able to observe this
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| | needed an interpreter for the collective
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| still exists in some Neolithic societies
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| | soul of humanity and all life, things
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| of the present day. When the second wife
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| | began the downward drift to the hegemony
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| arrived it might present some problems
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| | that often even denies man has a soul.
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| but in most cases the first wife would
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| | The extent of character assassination by
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| probably enjoy helping the new wife to
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| | academics that do not delve into the
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| understand her opportunities better. Yes,
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| | reasons for Caesar's propaganda or quote
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| I do overstate the case, I suppose, but
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| | others who did not employ due diligence
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| in the Keltic clandoms it was even better
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| | is as evident today as it ever was. The
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| than I am suggesting.
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| | people who focus on Keltic sacrifices and
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| Kids were a resource and source of pride
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| | trophy head customs are telling a fact
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| for the whole clan. In the dynamic of
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| | but not the whole truth. What is abortion
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| raising a child this allowed for many
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| | and capital punishment if not sacrificing
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| things to occur in a more mature
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| | the life of people, perhaps for a common
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| environment with less emotional
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| | good? Victorian prudishness developed the
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| blackmail. That does not lessen the
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| | 'sins and demons' fear-mongering of
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| aspirations parents have for their
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| | Jehovian greed even further. In fact the
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| children but it makes for a lot less
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| | Western Tradition has succeeded in the
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| vicarious pressure, as parents have to
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| | destruction of all Ancient Knowledge if
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| spend all their waking hours attending to
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| | you were to believe what is allowed to be
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| the needs of kids; who see a way to get
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| | disseminated through 'official' or
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| what they want by playing to the
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| | educational channels. The Temples of
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| unrealistic parents who have yet to learn
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| | Saphos and Mesopotamia joined all
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| what they need to know. There are aspects
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| | Mediterranean cultures in some form of
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| of North American Indians tribes that
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| | forced prostitution for women, while the
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| show a similar approach to child-raising.
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| | Biblical 'Devoted Ones' were sacrificed
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| The Stadacona Indians sent some of their
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| | when the priest or his cronies were
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| children with Cartier, much as the Kelts
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| | through with other obvious and disgusting
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| shared educational opportunities with
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| | uses of them. Often the orphans and waifs
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| trading partners. Aunts and uncles do the
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| | caused by the changing laws and racial
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| disciplining of children among the Cree.
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| | unrest and prejudice fomented in these
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| The extended family and communal living
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| | times, led souls to a place worse than
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| is very clannish and even Gibbon noted
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| | the Hell ruled by the Catholic created
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| there were heraldic Indian regalia that
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| | Satan. The excellent book called The
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| mirrored those of British heraldry.
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| | Golden Bough by Sir James Frazer gives
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| The Hurons and Iroquois are most like the
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| | ample evidence from credible sources
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| Irish or Norse Kelts in their social
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| | about burning Red Heads and women of all
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| structure. Crimes committed by a member
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| | classes being forced to sell their bodies
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| of a family or clan (tribe) are paid for
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| | and give the money to the Temple. It may
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| by the whole family. With this kind of
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| | have started with Abraham (and other
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| policing or morals bureaucracy would
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| | Ur-Story proponents with their harems)
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| starve for want of something to do. The
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| | and his baby-factories but it was
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| compassion and behaviour modification of
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| | certainly not the way of ancient Kelts
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| a family is better than that of the
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| | even after his time. The Indians of North
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| police or prisons, I think. The women of
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| | America and the natives of Hawaii are
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| the Iroquois were the decision makers in
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| | ample testimony of the diversity of
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| most cases except the daily running of a
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| | Keltic egalitarian approaches.
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